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APPROVED MINUTES
THE CITY OF THE VILLAGE OF DOUGLAS
PLANNING COMMISSION
DOUGLAS CITY HALL
Wednesday, August 13, 2008
1. The Meeting was called to order at 7:10 PM by Chairperson
Nern.
2. Roll Call: Dave Burdick, Christopher Nern, Alexa
Urquhart, Karen VanPelt, Renee Waddell
Also in attendance: Dave Kowal, City Manager; Andy Mulder, City Attorney;
Ryan Kilpatrick, Community Planner, Williams and Works
ABSENT: Ron Dellartino
3. Approval of Minutes
A. Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of July 9, 2008
VanPelt noted the misspelling of recuse on page 2, line 24.
Motion by Urquhart, second by VanPelt, to approve the
Minutes of the July 9, 2008 Planning Commission as corrected
Roll call: Urquhart, yes; VanPelt, yes; Waddell, yes;
Burdick, yes; Nern, yes
Motion carries
B. Planning Commission Workshop Meeting Minutes of
July 16, 2008
Motion by Urquhart, second by Waddell, to approve the
Minutes of the July 16, 2008 Planning Commission Workshop as presented
Roll call: Urquhart, yes; Waddell, yes; Burdick, yes;
VanPelt, yes, Nern, yes
Motion carries
4. Agenda Changes/Additions/Deletions
Kilpatrick reported that the applicant for item 8.A has requested
to be removed from the agenda.
Motion by Urquhart, second by VanPelt, to remove item 8.A from the
agenda
Roll call: Urquhart, yes; VanPelt, yes; Waddell, yes;
Burdick, yes; Nern, yes
Kilpatrick asked to add New Item 8.A Saugatuck Schools
Site Plan Review
Mulder gave some background information so that the members of the
audience would have a better understanding.
Motion by Nern, second by Urquhart, to add as new item
8.A Saugatuck Schools Site Plan Review
Roll call: Nern, yes; Urquhart, yes; VanPelt, yes; Burdick,
yes; Waddell, yes
Motion carries
Kilpatrick asked that correspondence from Paul Sendra,
Amity Lane, be added as Item 6.C
Motion by Waddell, second by Urquhart, to add as item
6.C correspondence from Mr. Paul Sendra
Roll call: Waddell, yes; Urquhart, yes; Burdick, yes;
VanPelt, yes; Nern, yes
Motion carries
Motion by Urquhart, second by Waddell, to approve the
agenda of the August 13, 2008 Planning Commission as amended
Roll call: Urquhart, yes; Waddell, yes; Burdick, yes;
VanPelt, yes; Nern, yes
Motion carries
5. Hear from the Audience
Jim Wiley, 314 Union Street, does not feel that the
community is informed enough about what this new Ball Field is; he
would appreciate it if someone could go over the plans.
Tara Frey, 483 Amity, we feel ill-informed, taken by
surprise; we have tried to stay informed. Last week at the School
Board, Mr. Wood addressed the ball park development and indicated
that there were two items from the state list that still needed to
be addressed; information is probably known but is not being disclosed.
The governments and the school district need to work together.
Kate Casey, Union Street, noted that this is a home
rule city; land development is a city issue, how does the state have
a right to be in our planning process.
Mulder reminded the commission that the Public Hearing
has been held previously.
Nern said that item 10 on the agenda allows for public
comment.
Urquhart said that she would like to allow public comment
during the discussion.
Burdick added that the changes in the site plan are
slight and that the discussion needs to be among the commissioners.
6. Written Communications
A. Michigan Township Services Summary of Permits issued
in June, 2008
Burdick said that the construction at 3081 Lakeshore Dr seems to be
pushing the envelope. Kilpatrick responded that the office is aware
of the concerns and is watching the progress carefully.
B. Letter from Jim Wiley, Douglas resident and business
owner, to Carol Wolenberg, Michigan Department of Education, regarding
the Saugatuck Public Schools proposed baseball field.
Nern referenced the content of the letter.
C. e-mail communication from Paul Sendra and Dale Deitzel
regarding the proposed ball field by the Saugatuck Public Schools
Nern again referenced the content of the communication that was based
on the nine-point letter from the state received in April.
7. New Business
A. Motion to approve, approve with conditions, deny,
or table the proposed application for Site Plan Review submitted by
Tony Herrell and Dana White for “Christo’s Roadhouse”
Consideration of an application for a proposed single-story
restaurant establishment to be located at 2935 Blue Star Highway in
the C-2 District (Property Parcel #03-5-021-018-78). Site is proposed
to accommodate between 67 and 100 guests and currently includes 25
parking spaces with access from both Blue Star Highway and Enterprise
Drive.
Agenda Materials for Item 7A Include:
1) Memo from Ryan Kilpatrick, dated August 7, 2008:
Staff level Site Plan Review
2) Application for Site Plan Review, submitted on 7/30/2008
3) Site Plan submitted by Dana White and Feenstra &
Associates, dated 8/20/2007
4) Proposed floor plan, dated 9/22/07
5) Proposed elevation sketches, date 12/10/2007
6) Additional Notes submitted by Dana White, dated
7/30/2008
7) Lighting specifications
Kilpatrick gave a brief summary of the application;
the applicants would like a preliminary review.
Dana White, builder and Tony Herrell, owner spoke. They
would like some input from the commissioners on what the commission
would like to see.
Urquhart had questions concerning the parking and the
number of patrons. She would like to see more complete landscape plans.
There are lighting questions: the actual wattage and height of the
fixtures need to be specified. Herrell responded that there is tons
of parking on site already; the electrician is local.
VanPelt asked if there is an increase in parking, will
all of the spaces be paved. White responded that almost all of the
lot is currently paved but they will top coat it so that it does not
look like a patchwork.
Burdick suggested that they look at the fire code; it
appears as if there is not a secondary exit from the dining room,
the only secondary exit is through the kitchen. White said that he
questioned that himself.
Waddell asked if there could be a sidewalk included
on the site plan. Kilpatrick said that is not currently in the ordinance
but it will be in the new one. Waddell asked about a liquor license.
Herrell said there is one in escrow, just waiting for building approval.
Motion by Nern, second by Urquhart, to table site plan
review for the proposed single-story restaurant establishment to be
located at 2935 Blue Star Highway in the C-2 District, Property Parcel
# 03-5- 021-018-78 until a further date
Roll call: Nern, yes; Urquhart, yes; Waddell, yes; Burdick,
yes; VanPelt, yes
Motion carries
8. Old Business
A. Saugatuck Public Schools: Site Plan Review
Mulder gave a detailed review of the history of the
process of this application. At the March 19, 2008 Planning Commission
Meeting a conditional special use was approved for the additional
six classrooms and two bathrooms addition to the Douglas Elementary
School. The materials relating to the proposed varsity baseball diamond
were received too late from the Saugatuck Public Schools to publish
proper public notice for this portion of the project. The Public Hearing
pertaining to the proposed expansion of the ball field was held on
April 16, 2008. There were extensive revisions to the proposed site
plan submitted to the Planning Commission during the public hearing;
the Planning Commission determined that more time would be necessary
to review the modifications. In a letter from Stanley Skopek, Michigan
Department of Economic Growth dated April 24, 2008 it indicated the
state was requesting items needing to be addressed before MDOE approval
could be recommended. At the May 21, 2008 Planning Commission a decision
was made by the Commission to table consideration of the site plan
until the commission could see how off-site conditions were going
to apply to the MDOE site plan criteria. Since that time there hasn’t
been additional information from the Schools; an alert citizen noticed
there was activity on the issue at the state level. E-mails were exchanged
attempting to obtain those plans. On Friday, August 8, 2008 we did
receive a letter from Scott Smith indicating the state had given approval
of the site plan. The approval indicated the project had been reviewed
and was in compliance with the published criteria. The approval letter
also indicates that the environmental approvals for noise control
and soil erosion can be deferred submittals.
The site plan drawings on display this evening are as approved by
the state; they are not substantially different from those discussed
on May 21, 2008. The fire access/emergency road is shown; the press
box has been removed; there is a new pan-handle shaped addition of
property on the west side of the plan; the landscaping that is shown
is to be placed on the Amity property and gifted to the property owners,
this would extend along the border to Mr. Wiley’s property;
there is additional netting near the Waypoint Restaurant.
A letter was sent in response to Mr. Scott’s communication today,
August 13, 2008.
Kilpatrick went to the easels to show comparison between
site plan 1 and site plan 2. He included a review of the noted changes
as they relate to the nine-point letter from Stan Skopek, Bureau of
Construction Codes, and dated April 24, 2008. The size of the parcel
has changed a little, unsure whether there had been a lot split undertaken.
The access to the dumpster enclosure looks to be according to Skopek’s
recommendation. According to zoning jurisdiction, the press box needed
to be removed and it was removed.
Mulder talked about filed correspondence with the Saugatuck
Public Schools relating to the use of this particular property covering
four areas: that there would be no public address system, no field
lights, and use would be limited to 15 home games of high school varsity
baseball, that community recreation could use the facility for summer
activities.
Burdick asked about the 25 foot tall poles to hold the
nets and where the scoreboard was going to be located. Kilpatrick
said that there will be screening. Mulder asked about the netting
near the Waypoint Restaurant. Kilpatrick said that the netting is
farther from the property line. Burdick asked if the distance is more
than the collapse distance. Kilpatrick responded that no, it is not.
Urquhart said that in the sketch of the legal description,
this is a change. This kind of change would need to have approval
from the City Council. What is the legal status? Kilpatrick said that
Article 17 regulates the changes of land ownership. According to the
County Tax Maps, the size of this parcel has changed; we will check
it to make sure that it is legal. Urquhart also noted that the section
would need to be a part of the landscape plan, those trees are not
on the site.
Burdick said that the issue is that there is no screening,
not within the site that we are looking at. Mulder responded that
there is a portion that is part of the school property. Kilpatrick
continued that all of the trees on the southwest corner are school
property; the nine trees on private property are to be gifted to the
condominium association.
Nern asked if all of the off-site issues have been addressed.
Burdick wondered if there were any remaining drainage
issues. Kilpatrick said that per the May 15, 2008 site plan, all drainage
issues were taken care of and met the requirements of the engineer.
Nern asked for a five minute recess at 8:25 PM
The meeting resumed at 8:40 PM
Burdick questioned the continuation of the property
line and the trees on the neighboring property. Kilpatrick added that
the office will need to do a check on the lot split. Smith responded
that the property has been purchased; the title work may not be done
yet. Burdick continued to say that the site needs to be under single
ownership.
Urquhart asked if a deed had been recorded for those
twenty feet. Property transfer has to have Council approval as an
agenda item. Kilpatrick said that as long as the division does not
create a non-conforming lot there should be no problem.
Mulder referred the commissioners to the Relevant Excerpts
from Article XXV, Special Use Procedures prepared as criteria for
making any decision on this issue. He said the Planning Commission
has to decide tonight to deny or grant based on appropriate findings-of-fact.
The commission will need to quantify those findings tonight or have
staff prepare a review of that decision. Kowal said that a decision
would need to be at a formal meeting, the next meeting on the 20th
of August is a Workshop Meeting. A Special Meeting could be posted
and held before the Workshop Meeting. Mulder said to be sure to use
relevant standards in the decision.
Nern directed the Commissioners to The Relevant Excerpts
from Article XXV, Special Use Procedures and Article XXVI Special
Use Standards.
Kilpatrick said that item d) is referring to public
service such as Police or Fire and public utilities like Electric.
Nern said that there have been many discussions concerning
item e). Urquhart said this item is pertaining to the economic well-being
of those close by; also to the Village as a whole. Burdick noted safety
concerns: the collapse distance for the safety nets combined with
the screening to protect the property (along with the screening not
actually being on the site); poles are an attractive nuisance. The
trees are nice and can act as a screening but with them not being
on site, I don’t know if we can count them. Nern said to use
our ability to protect the health, safety, and welfare of the community;
the struggle is to balance the conflict and part of the process within
the confines and boundaries of the law.
Kilpatrick said he is not aware of any conflicts concerning
f).
Nern noted that there has been some discussion on g).
Kilpatrick went on to say there has been nothing specific from either
the Police or Fire Departments. There is always a question of whether
there is adequate parking.
Mulder suggested looking at the Planning Reports prepared
for the meeting in thinking about section h). It might be beneficial
to relate to those criteria. Kilpatrick made note of the April 11,
2008 Memorandum, page 4 as a place to review comments. Mulder added
that the question becomes what adverse impacts this issue raises.
Nern said that j) is equally of concern with item h).
Kilpatrick went on to say that a specific concern is the site of the
batting cages; they are much closer and more intense a use than is
present currently. Noise during certain portions of the day could
be problem.
Nern said that he does not understand this as a temporary
use; the surrounding property is already fully developed. Urquhart
added that the Village Comprehensive Plan lists the area as being
used for Elementary students. It is designated in the original site
plan as elementary facilities, not for varsity events.
Mulder suggested looking at one of the criteria set
forth in the Michigan Department of Education Site Plan Review; would
the Planning Commission like to consider any of the state requirements
concerning setbacks? Use the criteria to compare suggestions from
the state with what has been presented.
Urquhart asked that the Athletic Fields and Play Areas
portion of the Michigan Department of Education document be read into
the record. Nern read:
Athletic Fields and Play Areas
All athletic fields shall comply with National Federation of State
High School Association dimensional and layout requirements. Athletic
fields and play structures not more than 100 feet from a residential
property line shall have 8 feet high evergreen trees with sufficient
density to screen the play area from a residential property. Visual
screening is not required for athletic fields and play structures
more than 100 feet from a residential property line.
Motion by Urquhart, second by Waddell, to deny the
request for Special Use for the ball field portion of the Douglas
Elementary School property, parcel nos. 59-016-047-00 and 59-016-065-21
based on the review of the Special Use Procedures, Article XXV, Standards;
and the Special Use Standards, Article XXVI, Schools; the Michigan
Department of Education Setbacks, and Athletic Fields and Play Areas
sections of the Public School Site Plan Review Reference Guide; and
to incorporate the letter from Stanly Skopek, MDOE, dated April 24,
2008 into the deliberations.
Roll call:
Urquhart, yes; Waddell, yes; VanPelt, yes; Burdick, no; Nern, yes
Motion carries
Motion by Urquhart, second by Waddell, that the City of the Village
of Douglas staff, in conjunction with the Law Office of Cunningham
and Dalman, prepare a draft of the decision for consideration by the
Planning Commission on August 20, 2008.
Roll call:
Urquhart, yes; Waddell, yes; Burdick, yes; VanPelt, yes; Nern, yes
Motion carries
9. Zoning Administrator’s Report
A. Letter from Saugatuck Township, dated July 2, 2008,
to the City of the Village of Douglas, pertaining to Saugatuck Township’s
intent to amend a portion of the Tri-Community Comprehensive Plan.
B. Letter from Ryan Kilpatrick, Planning and Zoning
Consultant, dated July 3, 2008, to Deborah Green pertaining to Zoning
Ordinance violations.
C. Letter from Ryan Kilpatrick, Planning and Zoning
Consultant, dated July 16, 2008, to Mary Bates pertaining to Zoning
Ordinance violations.
D. Letter from Ryan Kilpatrick, Planning and Zoning
Consultant, dated July 19, 2008, to Gerry and Joyce Osicek pertaining
to Zoning Ordinance violations.
E. Letter from City Attorney Andrew Mulder, dated July
31, 2008, to Attorney Scott Smith, Clark Hill PLC, pertaining to the
Zoning Violations of the Saugatuck Public Schools Early Childhood
Center.
Mulder said that at the last Council Meeting an extension was granted
in order for a mutually agreeable resolution to the matter between
the parties.
F. Kowal review of questions regarding Tower Marine.
The city has done title searches for what is considered the Tower
Marine property. Kowal had detailed drawings to help explain the survey
results. The city retains easement and riparian rights. Kowal mentioned
that RJ Peterson has been granted permits from the DEQ but has to
grant a conservation district. The DEQ does not supersede the Planning
Commission.
10. Hear from the Audience
Kate Casey reported that their attorney had not heard
from the School’s Attorney regarding the Educare facility settlement.
11. Commissioner Comments
Urquhart noted that spaces are being rented out to recreational
vehicles inside the parking lot. She would also like to thank the
staff for the exhaustive research done in helping us come to a decision
on the ball field.
Burdick reported that the Tri-Community Joint Planning
Committee will explore unified zoning administration. Many of the
best things about the community are things that we do together.
VanPelt said thank you for the organization and assistance.
Nern said it is interesting as they guide us through
this transformation as a community.
12. Adjournment
Motion by Urquhart, second by Burdick, to adjourn the
meeting at 9:45 PM
Motion carries
Respectfully submitted,
Alan McPhail
Recording Secretary